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Joe Barone

Humanae Vitae reminds us all again of the concept that in some permutations of religion (not just Roman Catholicism) one man is believed to have the right to issue binding long-term commands on behalf of God. And in modern Roman Catholicism it is always a supposedly celibate man. I grew up as a Catholic and I marvel at how long I accepted the doctrine of the infallibility of the pope without even thinking about it.

On the other hand, in Protestantism it seems as if it is every man (sometimes every person) for himself. And sometimes that leads to particular human beings (bishops, strong leaders like James Dobson and Jerry Falwell, or the particular opinion molders in your own congregation) taking over and demanding full power too.

For me personally the most sensible way to deal with this is to view all leadership in light of the two great commandments. Even if you see Jesus as no more than a great Jewish teacher, you can still believe there is eternal wisdom at the heart of his Bible (the Old Testament)and in the love he teaches.

Dolores Lear

"In the beginning", God created Adam. and using Adam's Rib, supernaturally reproduced Female/Eve, by High Tech Science, not Heterosexual Body Birth. They were Brother/Sister Clones. They were a New Colony, not just two Humans that Evolved.

The Colony reproduced Inbred Body Birth Children, Cain, Abel, Seth, and Daughters, and the Humans at Nod. All Humans since, have been born by the Original Sin of Heterosexual Body Birth.

Humans Know Brothers/Sisters, Cousins, should not marry, and have children. Humans Know today, how to Clone Male and Female Clones, but do not have the High Tech Womb as yet.

Humans have used their sexual reproductive members, for pleasure sex, which reproduced many unwanted children. Human Inequality, Inhumanity, and Killing resulted.

Females use all types of birth control, sponges, and all types of protection, plus the male withdrawing before ejaculation, to prevent child birth.

High Tech Science, has many types of seed reproduction controls, plus operations to tie the male and female tubes, which does not interfere with their pleasure sex.

Most Fallen Human explanations since the Sexual Revolution for pleasure sex, the past 100 years, are that God created the sex organs for reproduction 'and' pleasure.

In the Old Testament, it is recorded that it was a sin, for the Jewish male to waste his seed on the ground. The Catholic Church is also against male ejaculation and contraception, but, came up with the Rhythm Method for Pleasure Sex Birth Control.

The Pleasure Sex Revolution, for 100 years, has resulted in a population explosion from 1 billion in 1900, to 7 billion in 2011.

High Tech Science Reproduction 'can' reproduce Humans with 'All' Flesh Lust Controls. Heterosexual Body Birth has, All Flesh Lust Births. The Result, Pollution and Nuclear Bombs on Land and Sea.

Just Thinking

Popes dominating sexual function has been about control from the very beginning. The Popes wanted Catholic numbers to increase; they wanted huge families. So they wanted control over sexual function of adherents. And they also did not want any particular family to become dominant in the Church; so they banned Priests from marrying. It served a dual purpose of relieving the Catholic Church of the costs of supporting a Priest's family. It's all about control and dominance. Nothing else.

The problem with the Catholic Church's total domination of sexual function is this: abused become abusers. The Church demands celibacy for the Priests and they become abusers, where they try to demand control over the sexual functions of children. Abused become abusers.

Make no mistake about it: rape of children or anyone else is a control thing. It is about establishing dominance and control. This is precisely why the Priests in the Catholic Church act out the way that they do. They're lashing out in the same bad manner that they are treated. Homosexual rape was an ancient way that some conquering armies would completely disgrace their opponents and establish total dominance. This is how sick Catholic Priests act out, too.

The servile behavior of Catholics in accepting such nonsense from the Pope is quickly coming to an end. People simply will not accept the Dark Ages mentality of pretty little Popes in ruby red slippers. Ancient garb and incense are no substitute for thinking. The days of extreme servile behavior of people toward religious leadership is quickly ending. That is the same ridiculous, wrongheaded religious 'worship' that has produced the worst holy wars to date, including 9/11. Forced servile bowing to Mecca with derrier toward heaven is also only about control.

Dolores Lear

Does Pride in a God, Stand in the Way of Combating Religious Violence?

1John 2-15,16. KJV. "Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world."

Lust of the Flesh and Lust of the Eyes, is because of Heterosexual Body Birth Reproduction, that has no control of our Genetics, of those that succeed over their Brothers/Sisters of Life, get 'Pride' that the Father rewards them with More Material 'things', even though many Rich Humans do not accept the Religious Father.

Material 'thing's and Excessive Owned God's Resources is of the Unequal World, not of the Lord God/Father/Our Ancestors, that Created All Life on Earth Equally, 'in the beginning', with Equal Resources for All Life.

Now is the Time, 'not' to Destroy the Planet that our High Tech Science Ancestors Colonized, but Unite In One Equal Human Society. God is not a Higher Spirit 'Being', but are Pure-bred Male and Female Higher High Tech Equal Birth, 'Physical Beings'.

To Know the 'God', of the High Tech Colonization and Perfect Human Bring Reproduction, along with our High tech Science Knowledge, will Free Human from the Original Sin of Heterosexual Mis-bred Body Reproduction.

Fallen Humans, with their High Tech Science, make Nuclear Bombs that will blow up our Home Planet, with Death to End Life as we Know it. This Knowledge will End our Pride in our Human Prowess for Death, instead of for Eternal Physical Life After Birth, like our Ancestors and Jesus.

ChotoCK

JT, grow up already. You sound like a broken record. You have NEVER given proof for any of your points with anything other than allegations and lies. Show your so called learned position by quoting something other than your own opinions. 77% of admitted molesters are married with children, perhaps we should do away with marriage that would stop the problem yes? Your pride is shining like the sun.

Bill, I am not at all surprised you would only quote the dissenters, typical for leftist protestants. Perhaps you should do a bit more research on what Humane Vitae actually says, and why not take a look at John Paul II's writings on the family. Stop reading only those that disagree, I know as a protestant its in your nature, but I would expect more from someone supposedly into promoting respect for faiths.

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