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Still Thinking

I am also opposed to the death penalty.

It is interesting that the only poster around here calling for the death penalty was an atheist.

Still Thinking

Unfortunately, liberals are only opposed to the death penalty for criminals.

When it comes to a unborn human, or an old person who is sick and causing all kinds of trouble, its time to go bye bye.

Mary Behr

Contratulations, Bill, on sticking it out for 4 years. I count myself richer for the ride.

Keith

Still Thinking writes, "liberals are only opposed to the death penalty for criminals."

ST has created a straw man to bash. While I am a "liberal" in the most common use of the term, and not a member of the so-called "Pro-Life" movement, ST has NO IDEA of my thoughts and ideas.

With equal validity, I could construct a straw man of the "conservative," interested in life only until birth, at which point all caring ceases if it involves tax money and life's duration is left to the "market place."

Hardly a fair summation, but convenient for shallow pontificating and the avoidance of discussion.

Touchdown...I win!!!!

No wonder there is no consensus nearly 35 years after Roe v. Wade. There isn't even much rational discussion, and what little there is occurs outside the reporting of both old and new media.

Still Thinking

Call it what you want, but if a fetus is unwanted, "it" gets the death penalty.

So does the sick old fart.

Who ya kiddin, Keith?

Still Thinking

By the way, it is interesting that all this material is archived way back.

May come in handy someday!

There are some really memorable quotes during the past couple of weeks.

Still Thinking

Hey Keith, I tell you what.

You agree to eliminate the death penalty for fetuses, and I'll agree to eliminate the death penalty for criminals.

How about that?

Keith

ST, I'm not kidding anyone.

When you wish to discuss, rather than play with straw men, just say so. Until then, you're just a loud voice with little or no Thinking behind it.

Still Thinking

Heck, Keith, you're right. There isn't much rational discussion.

I mean, how do you rationally discuss killing babies?

Might as well "rationally discuss" the Holocaust or the Atheist Russian Death Camps...uh, "Gulags".

Dolores Lear

Bill.
Happy 4th Year Blog. Thanks for the Equal opportunity you give to All.

Bill.
"But destroying human life lowers the statel to the level of the Criminal."
How about all Governments that have Humans Kill Humans in War? What is moral in that? Is Patriotism and Standing up for your Country, more moral than standing up for a Christian God and Jesus? Do other religions also have a God that says "Thou shalt not Kill?"

Keith.
Thank you for the term, "interested in life until birth". I needed that.

As you all know I have posted against all Killing, not just abortion, but all ways people kill their Brothers/Sisters of Life. Until we accept our Enemy is not our Brothers/Sisters, we will Kill all Life on our Planet, not just each other.

So...until we understand Why we Kill each other...and why we have our Home Planet covered with nuclear bombs on land and sea... happy posting.

Who is our Brother/Sister of Life? Only our religious family?

Still Thinking

Delores I see you are against all killing, not just abortion.

I appreciate your calling abortion what it is...killing...and I think we have a common ground on this issue.

But Keith thinks people can discuss this "rationally".

Actually, the only thing rational about it is that people who want to kill will rationalIZE an excuse for it.

Dolores Lear

Until we accept how Life began on Earth, evolution or High Tech Science Colonization, we cannot understand why we Kill everything on our Planet, including our Eco System. We Kill our religous Brothers/Sisters, as in the Revolutionary Wars in many countries, as the USA did in their Revolutionary War, Civil War, WW1 and WW2. Why?

We have different ways to describe the God of Planet Earth. Some say there is no God, and Life Evolved over billions of years. If so, Humans are still killing each other, so there are still no morals that are taught about, but not followed. Actions speak louder than words. Where do moral teachings come from? God or Humans?

Some say we have a Spirit Father that started Life on Earth, and he became a Human as his Son, but the Father is not a Human.
Iggy calls God a Space Daddy, and I call him our High Tech Male and Female Human Ancestors from Space, that are the 'Father', of the Life that was Colonized on Earth. Cain killed his Brother Abel, but Cain did not get Capital Punishment, went out and established another City, married, and had a family.

Ever since Humans have been reproduced by Body Birth, from Cain's descendents and have the Killer Genetics of Cain in our ancestory. Seth another Body Birth son of Adam and Eve also started another nation, and had the Moral Genetics. All Humans now have a mixture of Genetics. But the Killer Genetics, have been the strongest down through time. Anyone that thinks any country or people has been moral, even religious establishments, cannot see the fire because of the smoke. They still accept Killing as the Way of Life.

God does not Kill. So is Capital Punishment from God or from Fallen Humans? Is Killing our Brothers/Sisters in all ways, including War, the only Way to keep the Fallen Population from falling off the ends of the Earth? Or suffocating the Earth's atmosphere, as we are doing today? Is the Nuclear 'Arm'ageddon, the only Way to thin out this Killing population explosion, of 6.6 billion defective Humans?

Capital punishment is a minor issue, with all the accepted Killing of our Brothers/Sisters on Earth today.

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Hawk Eye

Nuns leave their brains to science

By STEPHANIE REITZ, Associated Press Writer Fri Dec 21, 8:35 PM ET
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071222/ap_on_re_us/nun_brains

WILTON, Conn. - When Sister Kathleen Treanor's soul ascends to heaven, her brain will go to a less ethereal realm: a medical lab in Kentucky. Two decades ago, Sister Treanor and 677 other members of the School Sisters of Notre Dame granted a young researcher's request to test them each year in order to track the progression of Alzheimer's disease and other age-related brain disorders.
The 61 surviving nuns recently completed their last round of intellectual and physical tests for the Nun Study, one of the world's most comprehensive neurological research projects.
One final sacrifice remains: When they die, their brains will be taken for further study, joining a collection of hundreds of other brains donated by the the nuns who died before them.
Sister Treanor, a 93-year-old former school principal who is one of the last of the volunteers at a Wilton convent, looks at her participation as service, not sacrifice.
"I've tried to do good while I'm alive, and I liked the idea that I could do something good after death," she said.
With the modesty of their calling, the nuns attribute the study's success to researcher Dr. David Snowdon, downplaying their own countless hours of interviews and testing over the decades.
"I never minded having my brain checked out. It kept me out of trouble," said 96-year-old Sister Antoine Daniel.
Researchers say Snowdon's work already has produced interesting results, including a finding that people who challenge themselves intellectually can apparently delay or prevent the onset of Alzheimer's symptoms.
Snowdon's work also suggests that in people predisposed to Alzheimer's, a stroke or head trauma can speed the disease's progression — an argument for wearing seat belts, helmets and other protective gear.
He also has researched the levels of folic acid in the blood of deceased nuns with and without dementia; why nuns with positive attitudes and creative verbal skills tend to live longer than their glass-half-empty peers; and other questions.
"We'll continue to learn from the sisters for many, many years to come," Snowdon said.
Snowdon was a nervous young epidemiology professor at the University of Minnesota when he approached the first group of nuns in 1986 at the School Sisters of Notre Dame order in Mankato, Minn.
Although Pope Pius XII had declared in 1956 that donating organs was acceptable in the Roman Catholic faith, asking nuns to leave their brains to science for post-mortem testing was a delicate task. That was especially true for Snowdon, who had attended Catholic school and still viewed nuns with a mix of reverence and intimidation.
Yet getting them to donate their brains was critical because the only indisputable diagnosis of Alzheimer's comes from examining a patient's brain after death.
"At that time, it was hard enough just to get families of Alzheimer's patients to agree to donate the brain of a loved one with the disease," he said. "What we found is that because the sisters had been teachers, they looked at this as a way to keep teaching even after they die."
Snowdon expanded his study over the years, recruiting more nuns at other School Sister convents nationwide and joining the University of Kentucky to devote himself fully to the project. By 1992, he was giving annual memory and cognitive tests to 678 nuns ranging in age from 75 to 102.
One reason the nuns are such a valuable research tool is that as members of the same religious order, they all had decades of similar medical treatment, diets, reproductive histories and preventive care. Almost nine out of 10 had been teachers.
In the general population, finding such a uniform pool of test subjects is difficult.
About half the nuns in the study developed Alzheimer's disease or other forms of dementia before they died, about similar to the general population.
"It's such a cool study. People who study aging love to have these longitudinal perspectives because we think the early life experiences probably do have an impact on exceptional longevity," said Dr. Thomas Perls, a Boston University professor and Alzheimer's specialist who directs the New England Centenarian Study, which focuses on people 100 and older.
Of the seven remaining Nun Study participants based at the Wilton convent, several still recall their first memories as toddlers, can recite lengthy poems they learned in elementary school or tell vivid stories of classes they taught at schools around the U.S.
The Connecticut sisters say that while God gets their souls when they die, they are comfortable — comforted, even — knowing Snowdon has dibs on their brains.
"I think of the overall picture of what good could come out of it," said Sister Alberta Sheridan, 92. As for the possibility of developing Alzheimer's, she is sanguine: "If it happens, it happens. It's part of God's plan."

Hawk Eye

Chuck Norris sues, says his tears no cancer cure
By Christine Kearney
Fri Dec 21, 7:21 PM ET
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071222/en_nm/norris_lawsuit_dc

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Tough-guy actor and martial arts expert Chuck Norris sued publisher Penguin on Friday over a book he claims unfairly exploits his famous name, based on a satirical Internet list of "mythical facts" about him.


Penguin published "The Truth About Chuck Norris: 400 facts about the World's Greatest Human" in November. Author Ian Spector and two Web sites he runs to promote the book, including www.truthaboutchuck.com, are also named in the suit.


The book capitalizes on "mythical facts" that have been circulating on the Internet since 2005 that poke fun at Norris' tough-guy image and super-human abilities, the suit said.


It includes such humorous "facts" as "Chuck Norris's tears cure cancer. Too bad he has never cried" and "Chuck Norris does not sleep. He waits," the suit said, as well as "Chuck Norris can charge a cell phone by rubbing it against his beard."


"Some of the 'facts' in the book are racist, lewd or portray Mr. Norris as engaged in illegal activities," the lawsuit alleges.


Norris, who rose to fame in the 1970s and 1980s as the star of such films as "The Delta Force" and "Missing in Action," says the book's title would mislead readers into thinking the facts were true.


"Defendants have misappropriated and exploited Mr. Norris's name and likeness without authorization for their own commercial profit," said the lawsuit.


The suit, filed in Manhattan federal court, seeks unspecified monetary damages for trademark infringement, unjust enrichment and privacy rights.


Norris, whose real name is Carlos Ray Norris, claims in the suit he is protective of what his name is associated with. He has recently made U.S. headlines for backing Republican presidential candidate former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee.


A spokesman for Penguin, owned by Britain's Pearson, was not immediately available for comment.


(Editing by Michelle Nichols and Todd Eastham)

James

The world has been worshipping Satan for a long time.

In fact, some of his followers had direct political control in Russia for a long time; Solzhenitsyn called them "devils".

Who knows, they may be back.

James

Take the Blaspheme Satan Challenge:

I deny Satan/I blaspheme him.

I spit on his name.

James

We need to keep in mind that the Little Russian Atheist Troll is simply imitating the tactics he was educated with.

In the officially atheistic Soviet Union of the 70's and 80's, where he grew up and was educated, the method was ridicule, innuendo, ad hominems, and guilt by association.

All in massive waves leaving no opportunity for comment.

Thus, SILENCING the opponent by ridicule, or some legal means was considered victory.

So, he is just acting out is upbringing, and we shouldn't take it too seriously.

Still Thinking, Still Delusional

It is interesting that the only poster around here calling for the death penalty was an atheist. by: Still Thinking | December 22, 2007 at 03:52 AM


ST, please, provide a quote on it WITHOUT TAKING IT OUT OF THE CONTEXT.

Are you referring to killing your god for his crimes against innocent babies and all other people he condemned throughout the Bible when he is judged by a competent and legal court?

I believe, that if your god is put on trial and sentenced to death by electric chair or hanging and all appeals are exhausted I would not have any problems to kill your god myself if I am given the opportunity. This to you will just be a bonanza - your god will be resurrected yet again to show that he stands above the law :o) What do you have to lose? – You have another straw man to bitch at and it shows that your god is real, so it’s a win win. It also adds a NEWER Testament to your story line.

If by then the laws and morals change, I will be more than happy to change my morals as well and live with the consequences of giving your god life sentence in a prison.

If your god repents and says he is sincere about all the crimes your god has perpetrated on human kind, I'll be happy with it if the law allows to let him go. I would tell him to leave this Universe and NEVER COME BACK TO SCREW UP OUR LIVES.

If your god is an honest god, he’ll fulfill his end of the bargain. If not, then if we catch him again, I don’t think there will be a third strike. Then I am sure there will be others who’d like to see your god soiled when his neck is broken when he’s hanged.

James

As for killing my God after putting him on trial and sentencing him to death:

It was already done, 2000 years ago.

But he beat the system.

James

And why are you upset about kiling innocent babies?

I haven't met an atheist yet who wasn't gung ho for abortion.

Still Thinking, Still Delusional


Take the Blaspheme Satan Challenge:
I deny Satan/I blaspheme him. I spit on his name. by: James | December 22, 2007 at 09:21 AM

Back at you slick :o)

I deny your space daddy god and the holy spirit and not only spit on their names I also would not mind to see them hanged for the crimes they have committed and display their soiled underwear when god's neck is snapped or he's electrocuted.

I also deny all other gods that ever existed or will be man made in the image of the man like Jesus Christ was.

I don't deny that there are delusions that are neurological in nature and can be explained by natural causes without involving space daddies.

I don't deny that there are people who hold these delusions and talk to imaginary people and claim that they talk back to them.

Denying that would be like denying that Santa is real.

For delusions to grow, there just need to be enough of those who believe in them. Christianity and other religions just got enough of a critical mass to transform from a cult into a larger cult which took on a structure and organization.

Also, I cannot deny that you have no intentions for any debate and that you actually may not show up if the debate is set up.

Also, I cannot deny that you know it and know that I know it :o)

To deny that would be delusional :o)

Still Thinking, Still Delusional

Because abortion is legal. Your god was making the laws as he was going. As an attorney yourself you should know the difference.

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